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Himey  
#1 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:13:40 PM(UTC)
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Here are the results from tonight's games:

Jakarta defeats Islamabad-
Behind guest Ali Omar, gave Islamabad another loss

Istanbul defeats Tripoli-
Tripoli wasn't able to make this a close one as Faraz and Maher were both out. Ali exploded for 29 and Joe Brought down 27 Boards!!!!

Dhaka defeats Jerusalem-
With Guest Rajab Abbassi playing for them, Dhaka was able to maintain control throughout

Kazan defeats Damascus-
Behind guest Larry Burroughs 29 points, Kazan took this one in a comeback over Damascus

Baghdad defeats Lagos-
With Fernando out, but Mujtaba guesting for Lagos, Baghdad defeated them in a close one to take the top seed in D2

Sana'a defeats Timbuktu-
Along with their Newest addition Mustafa Abbassi, Sana'a was able to hold Timbuktu to 7 points in the first half, and win the game.

Post Your game recaps below:
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ef_128  
#2 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:36:58 PM(UTC)
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what a week !!

jakarta - still on trucking !!
istanbul - all around team game won it big
dhaka - no andre helped dhaka out big time .. wouldve been a different game
kazan - no guests allowed in the playoffs
baghdad - they are big and they play big .. shahrukh is a stud with his jumper
sana'a - finally another win !!
Adham23809  
#3 Posted : Friday, May 18, 2012 8:52:22 AM(UTC)
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Damascus vs Kazan:

To make a long story short, Damascus had the lead at the end of the game and pulled a Game 2 Lakers vs OKC. Costly turnovers and bad shots quickly diminished the lead and ultimately lead to a loss.

Now a quick break down:

- Chris and J did their thing, no real issues there

- Adham could not buy a shot, shooting only 2-8 from 3's and 2-11 overall after coming off an 8-14 shooting night last week, all of those shots from beyond the arc

- we picked up a bunch of early fouls, refs were calling EVERYTHING in the first half it was ridiculous, one sequence lead to 4 straight free throws at the end of the half due to a tech, we eventually had to talk to them and in the second half they let us actually play

- Kazan was missing Anthony due to injury, instead of trying to win with their real squad, in which they did have enough players and even subs, they instead went out and got a player who's even better then Anthony, he scored half of the teams points (29) and grabbed 18 boards, we simply could not box him out, 95% of his points were tap-ins and the rest were fast break layups


I'm not complaining or anything, I mean a loss is a loss and we still should have won. But I really think the league needs to sit down and go back to the drawing board regarding guest passes and what's allowed and what isn't. There needs to be some limitations or guide-lines. It can't just be fully wide open the way it is now. It's not fair to bring in a guest that changes the entire team, not only that but actually changes them for the better. A guest should only be brought in when a team really needs one, like when they have less then 5 players and don't have enough to even play. Then it's understandable. Especially when the opposing team was preparing all week for the game and then all that has to be thrown out the window since they are now playing a completely different team.

I really think the league should look into this. Too many times this season, teams have either lost or had games that were closer then they should have been because of a guest that didn't even need to be there or shouldn't have been there. What's the point of spending all off-season working hard on making a roster and a complete team just to have other teams add guests all season. It's not fair to those captains who actually try and make a real team during the off-season.

In the end, does it really matter in terms of winning it all? Not really. But still, it is very annoying to come to a game expecting to play the team with the roster you see online when it ends up being a completely different one.

Edited by user Friday, May 18, 2012 12:45:06 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified




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Shareef  
#4 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 6:49:55 AM(UTC)
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Jakarta vs. Islamabad

This was a very physical game from the start. Both teams have pretty big guys on their squad and some very aggressive guards.
One ref was missing at the beginning of the game, and so a lot fouls were not being called (for both sides). The first half of this game was very close. Jakarta took the lead early, but soon lost it towards the end of the first half. However, after half time we came out big on the defensive end- and frustrated the other squad, and Ali was unstoppable in the post- he kept on scoring despite being fouled and doubled-teamed on multiple occasions. It was a good, but certainly not easy, win for Jakarta- Islamabad is better than their record indicates, and should not be underestimated by any team.


P.s. I don't think the guest issue is as big a deal as the previous post indicates, there is a pretty big imbalance in D2 this season, some captains made their squads on the assumption that D2 this season would be similar to D2 last season. Which is obviously not the case. It's ironic that this is coming from a player on Damascus, a pretty stacked squad- with two D1 caliber players, who made their MB debut in D2 (both of whom have been putting up superstar numbers). Also, I don't see how it is "unfair" for captains to take advantage of the guest pass system- given that it is available to everybody equally. In any case it is usually the teams that really need the guest passes that actually use them (i.e. dhakka, kazan, jakarta). Anthony pretty much carries his team on his own (and some members of their squad were not chosen by the captain but were added from the free agent list) and so when he's out they definitely need a replacement (this is why the system exists). If your complaint is that he was too good, maybe you guys should have double teamed him or boxed out better. Other teams certainly have to figure our how to stop Chris H. from dropping close to 30 points or getting a double-double (OR TRIPLE-DOUBLE!), and if bringing a guest is part of the solution, then so be it, at least they won't be around for the playoffs.
labbasi  
#5 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 7:55:19 AM(UTC)
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Shareef... Adham wasn't saying the guest pass is unfair because that kid was too good... nobody thinks he was too good, he out hustled us and out rebounded us and we didnt box him out, your right. When i first joined the league a few years ago in 2009, the guest pass was a rarely used thing, it was to avoid 5 on 4 situations, or forfeits... but the way its being used now is.. "damn the team were playing this week is really good, lets bring a ringer so we can beat them, even though we already have 15 players coming." Listen i dont mind it anyways, im just clarifying adhams point which makes sense... for me it makes no difference because a teams true identity will come out in the playoffs... Also, about chris and J on our team, the difference is that theyre on our roster, everyone sees them, knows them, and prepares for them... adhams post was saying that its annoying when we prepare for one player all week, with a specific game plan, then come in to find a completely different player, the guest pass is fine, but maybe the limitations on it being used can be tweaked a little bit.
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#6 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:45:20 AM(UTC)
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First of all Shareef, we both know that D2 is not 'D2' this year. It is an entirely different league with lots of talent, our team included. We did not make our team the way it is because we wanted to destroy D2, no we made it the way it is because of the teams that we heard were joining D2, which is now riddled with D1 players and even full D1 teams. Believe it or not, our original roster did not even include Chris or J before we heard of all the teams/players that were joining D2. So no, there is no irony at all in my post. D1 might edge out D2 in overall talent, but they are both competitive leagues this year for any team. As you can already see, if we were as unbelievably amazing as you stated then we would be undefeated. If a team doesn't have enough talent, then that is there fault for not preparing during the long off-season, not an excuse for abusing guest passes, especially when they already have a full squad.

But that is aside from my original post, which I still stand by. Guest passes are being abused and are not being used they way they were originally intended to be used, as Layth clarified. As with everything, there needs to be some limitation or guide-lines, or else people will start bringing MJ to the court. And as we all already stated, it won't matter much come playoff time, it's more of an annoyance then an actual big deal, especially for the people that really look forward to playing every week with a specific game plan.

I think we can all agree that the system needs some tweaking.

Edited by user Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:58:54 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified




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aliguori  
#7 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:41:17 AM(UTC)
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just play ball fellas....enough complaining already...
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#8 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:47:43 AM(UTC)
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LOL get outta here ant... staring down our bench after you contributed nothing but a guest. smh. I hope we play you guys first MJ
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Adham23809  
#9 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 1:59:50 PM(UTC)
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aliguori wrote:
just play ball fellas....enough complaining already...


Lol trust me bro we're not complaining. It's something we're bringing up to the whole league, your team just happened to be the latest example and the one used in this thread. There are other teams that abuse it too.



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aliguori  
#10 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 9:42:18 PM(UTC)
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no one is abusing it.. we have no scores on the team so of course I'm going to bring someone if i can't play... what ed's team ?? when we played them we both agreed we weren't going to bring any guest so what does he do?/ bring 2 d1 guest and we get blown out... so don't come here complaining about guest passes being taken advantage of and what not..i been there too..

yamin , please bro .. just please bro... u must of forgot what i used to do to you at la fitness...

of course ima be cheering my team on when I'm not playing...and i was staring down the bench giving my team the scouting report of u guys...

yamin another thing bro cause now u kinda aggravated me a lil bit... u don't do squat on any team you on bro.. so don't go there... you are the KING and i repeat the KING of bringing "ringers" so plz man don't even touch this topic...


and ahmad rules r rules and the guest passes are there for everyone.. and everyone uses it in different ways.. you can use it just like i can use it.. reg season means nothing ..everyone makes the playoffs.. and u shouldn't be worried u are on a very good team... guys like em should be worried cause i can't use guest in the playoffs so i think u shouldn't never even brought that topic up to be honest.. but it is what it is... i still got love for you guys.. except yamin..
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#11 Posted : Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:43:14 PM(UTC)
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Don't know why you are coming out of no where attacking me.. but I will do my best to address everything you just said.

King of bringing ringers? ... The only team I captain is my D2 team. We haven't guested anyone as of yet, so I don't know what you are talking about. I didn't touch this topic...I said nothing about it? All I said was you acted like you won the game with your demeanor when all you really did was bring a guest.

Since you want to bring it up lets talk about how you picked up Eric Sylvester and failed to mention to Andre he was a former D3 Player and described his experience as having "only pickup ball experience" LOL ... (good luck trying to pick up anyone on any future team you are on). Then you try to pickup Styles on your D2 team and complain why captains aren't allowing your pickups. At least when I pick up people I am straightforward with their experience, even with Chris I sent in his HS career stats, because SOMEONE began a rumor that Chris was ranked 12th player in NJ SMH.... So i could drop him from my roster.

What you used to do to me at LA fitness? lool no I don't recall... let alone recall last I have seen you in Wayne LAF. Regardless, please tell me you are not using Pickup Basketball as means of credibility/bragging rights haha, cmon man.

Anthony, I may not be doing squat on the teams I am on right now, because most of the time I don't need to do much and I am a supporting Guard on both teams. I can promise you, I can do more with 20 shots then you have in your entire career. I am not first option on both teams I am on.... but you know what lets bring up a season where I was top (2nd/3rd) option ya know just so I am not shooting in the wind... Roll Eyes

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I shot 84 shots that season total (9 shots per game). 60% FG and 50% 3 PT FG.

You are currently averaging 23 shots per game combined for both leagues (216 shots) 34% FG and 29% 3 PT FG.

Numbers are facts, and they speak for themselves.

I don't know why I "aggravated" you when I did absolutely nothing unsportsmanlike to you or your team. In fact you were the one who conducted yourself poorly after a win. I shook everyone's hand on Kazan and said good win, I never said anything about you cheering your team on. What did you do? Hobble your way near our bench after the win and stare it down... How exactly do you give your team a scouting report staring down the opposing teams bench after a win? Let me know, I would love to know how that works, it sounds efficient.

Edited by user Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:31:12 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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Big O  
#12 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:58:59 AM(UTC)
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This whole topic of guesting really comes down to 2 or 3 things.

1. Is the guest necessary if you are guesting soemone when you have a full roster show up of 7, 8, or 9.
2. Is the guest of similar ability to the player(s) being guested for.
3. Is the guest playing the entire game or the majority of the game over players who paid to play.

I think if someone mentions abuse, it would have to have something to do with one of those 3 points imo. And this thread is not isolated to the D2 Kazan game, as it appears that have been several instances during the season where a guest may not have been essential or needed. This is something we will look at in the offseason, but there really is no way to police points 2 and 3.

In any case, every team makes the playoffs, and no guests in playoffs, so the cream will rise to the top.
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Adham23809  
#13 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:41:42 AM(UTC)
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aliguori wrote:
no one is abusing it.. we have no scores on the team so of course I'm going to bring someone if i can't play... what ed's team ?? when we played them we both agreed we weren't going to bring any guest so what does he do?/ bring 2 d1 guest and we get blown out... so don't come here complaining about guest passes being taken advantage of and what not..i been there too..

yamin , please bro .. just please bro... u must of forgot what i used to do to you at la fitness...

of course ima be cheering my team on when I'm not playing...and i was staring down the bench giving my team the scouting report of u guys...

yamin another thing bro cause now u kinda aggravated me a lil bit... u don't do squat on any team you on bro.. so don't go there... you are the KING and i repeat the KING of bringing "ringers" so plz man don't even touch this topic...


and ahmad rules r rules and the guest passes are there for everyone.. and everyone uses it in different ways.. you can use it just like i can use it.. reg season means nothing ..everyone makes the playoffs.. and u shouldn't be worried u are on a very good team... guys like em should be worried cause i can't use guest in the playoffs so i think u shouldn't never even brought that topic up to be honest.. but it is what it is... i still got love for you guys.. except yamin..


All good, I shouldn't have only mentioned your team because now you think this is about you and your team only when it's not. This is a problem with the whole league. Had we played Ed's team and he did that to us then the topic would have mentioned Ed's team.

Anyway, no need to keep going back and forth on this, all of my points were already made. Good luck to your team and we'll see you in the playoffs.



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Adham23809  
#14 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 8:44:21 AM(UTC)
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Big O wrote:
This whole topic of guesting really comes down to 2 or 3 things.

1. Is the guest necessary if you are guesting soemone when you have a full roster show up of 7, 8, or 9.
2. Is the guest of similar ability to the player(s) being guested for.
3. Is the guest playing the entire game or the majority of the game over players who paid to play.

I think if someone mentions abuse, it would have to have something to do with one of those 3 points imo. And this thread is not isolated to the D2 Kazan game, as it appears that have been several instances during the season where a guest may not have been essential or needed. This is something we will look at in the offseason, but there really is no way to police points 2 and 3.

In any case, every team makes the playoffs, and no guests in playoffs, so the cream will rise to the top.


Thank you Omar, this is pretty much a summary of everything I said, and I'm glad you guys are going to look into this during the off-season.



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mastaweiss  
#15 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:12:40 AM(UTC)
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"when we played them we both agreed we weren't going to bring any guest so what does he do?/ bring 2 d1 guest and we get blown out..."

just to clarify, that was my decision not ed's. me and anthony did agree to use our true teams, however, we lost 3 players that day and were down to 4. i don't know many people to ask to play, so i asked 2 people i knew. matt and farhad. i asked both of them to take it easy and they did. farhad only had 8 points. i think matt had 8 also. i did apologize to my friends samir and anthony afterwards, they understood and we got past it.

guests are guests. they are there temporary. if a team brings ringers to beat other teams, nobody respects their win. it's all fun and games until the playoffs anyway.

Edited by user Sunday, May 20, 2012 9:13:21 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

aliguori  
#16 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:31:14 AM(UTC)
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weiss shut up lol.. u knew all along.. anyways yea we got passed that.. yamin of course u only take 6 shots a game cause u have 2 good teams so u don't have to do much, me on the other hand is a big part of each team I'm on... 2 completely different rolls so u can't compare that...
and u wanna bring up how u was so good in 2008 and 2009 when this league was very weak at that time.. I'm not dissing the league I'm just sating facts... this is the most competitive season by far according to other players that been around this league along time.. so when u was a top guard here there wasn't much comp .. anyways this is not with this is about..

u rubbed me the wrong way a few times already since last season but I'm passed that.. again no one on ur d2 should be complaining ya have a great team and the best player in d2 in chris h on the team so i shouldn't be complaining bout guest...

maybe if adham would of knocked down a few more 3's ya woulda won but bass had him on lock.. lmaoo... i still got love for you adham lol hass told me to say it lol....

i dont recall staring down ya bench in a wrong way , if u took it the wrong way i apologize but i don't recall doing that.... but what i do recall when your team found out i couldn't play i saw a few members high fiving each other and happy i couldn't play which is kinda cruel but its ok no one can help an injury... but i always support everyone here and since last season made friends with everyone in the league... on the court is a diff story but off the court I'm very social able and friendly with every mb member even ali and a fay ...so

Edited by user Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:34:26 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

hass30  
#17 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:45:08 AM(UTC)
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Adham23809 wrote:
Damascus vs Kazan:

To make a long story short, Damascus had the lead at the end of the game and pulled a Game 2 Lakers vs OKC. Costly turnovers and bad shots quickly diminished the lead and ultimately lead to a loss.

Now a quick break down:

- Chris and J did their thing, no real issues there

- Adham could not buy a shot, shooting only 2-8 from 3's and 2-11 overall after coming off an 8-14 shooting night last week, all of those shots from beyond the arc

- we picked up a bunch of early fouls, refs were calling EVERYTHING in the first half it was ridiculous, one sequence lead to 4 straight free throws at the end of the half due to a tech, we eventually had to talk to them and in the second half they let us actually play

- Kazan was missing Anthony due to injury, instead of trying to win with their real squad, in which they did have enough players and even subs, they instead went out and got a player who's even better then Anthony, he scored half of the teams points (29) and grabbed 18 boards, we simply could not box him out, 95% of his points were tap-ins and the rest were fast break layups


I'm not complaining or anything, I mean a loss is a loss and we still should have won. But I really think the league needs to sit down and go back to the drawing board regarding guest passes and what's allowed and what isn't. There needs to be some limitations or guide-lines. It can't just be fully wide open the way it is now. It's not fair to bring in a guest that changes the entire team, not only that but actually changes them for the better. A guest should only be brought in when a team really needs one, like when they have less then 5 players and don't have enough to even play. Then it's understandable. Especially when the opposing team was preparing all week for the game and then all that has to be thrown out the window since they are now playing a completely different team.

I really think the league should look into this. Too many times this season, teams have either lost or had games that were closer then they should have been because of a guest that didn't even need to be there or shouldn't have been there. What's the point of spending all off-season working hard on making a roster and a complete team just to have other teams add guests all season. It's not fair to those captains who actually try and make a real team during the off-season.

In the end, does it really matter in terms of winning it all? Not really. But still, it is very annoying to come to a game expecting to play the team with the roster you see online when it ends up being a completely different one.



either way like you said you were 2-11 and i remember chris h missin some layups and put backs and larry the guest was no where near the play if some of those shots wouldve went in you guys couldve won we only one by 7 larry didnt play defense by himself it was a team effort and even on offense other guys on the team made key baskets and like you said i hope we play each other first im looking forward to it
aliguori  
#18 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:47:54 AM(UTC)
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slickshot wrote:
Don't know why you are coming out of no where attacking me.. but I will do my best to address everything you just said.

King of bringing ringers? ... The only team I captain is my D2 team. We haven't guested anyone as of yet, so I don't know what you are talking about. I didn't touch this topic...I said nothing about it? All I said was you acted like you won the game with your demeanor when all you really did was bring a guest.

Since you want to bring it up lets talk about how you picked up Eric Sylvester and failed to mention to Andre he was a former D3 Player and described his experience as having "only pickup ball experience" LOL ... (good luck trying to pick up anyone on any future team you are on). Then you try to pickup Styles on your D2 team and complain why captains aren't allowing your pickups. At least when I pick up people I am straightforward with their experience, even with Chris I sent in his HS career stats, because SOMEONE began a rumor that Chris was ranked 12th player in NJ SMH.... So i could drop him from my roster.

What you used to do to me at LA fitness? lool no I don't recall... let alone recall last I have seen you in Wayne LAF. Regardless, please tell me you are not using Pickup Basketball as means of credibility/bragging rights haha, cmon man.

Anthony, I may not be doing squat on the teams I am on right now, because most of the time I don't need to do much and I am a supporting Guard on both teams. I can promise you, I can do more with 20 shots then you have in your entire career. I am not first option on both teams I am on.... but you know what lets bring up a season where I was top (2nd/3rd) option ya know just so I am not shooting in the wind... Roll Eyes

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I shot 84 shots that season total (9 shots per game). 60% FG and 50% 3 PT FG.

You are currently averaging 23 shots per game combined for both leagues (216 shots) 34% FG and 29% 3 PT FG.

Numbers are facts, and they speak for themselves.

I don't know why I "aggravated" you when I did absolutely nothing unsportsmanlike to you or your team. In fact you were the one who conducted yourself poorly after a win. I shook everyone's hand on Kazan and said good win, I never said anything about you cheering your team on. What did you do? Hobble your way near our bench after the win and stare it down... How exactly do you give your team a scouting report staring down the opposing teams bench after a win? Let me know, I would love to know how that works, it sounds efficient.



and another thing i never once abused the guest pass.. every time i used a guest pass is when i couldn't play or one of my big guys fromd 1 couldn't play.. thats the only time i ever used the guest pass so u tell me how i abused the guest pass..smh
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#19 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:51:50 AM(UTC)
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aliguori wrote:
weiss shut up lol.. u knew all along.. anyways yea we got passed that.. yamin of course u only take 6 shots a game cause u have 2 good teams so u don't have to do much, me on the other hand is a big part of each team I'm on... 2 completely different rolls so u can't compare that...
and u wanna bring up how u was so good in 2008 and 2009 when this league was very weak at that time.. I'm not dissing the league I'm just sating facts... this is the most competitive season by far according to other players that been around this league along time.. so when u was a top guard here there wasn't much comp .. anyways this is not with this is about..

u rubbed me the wrong way a few times already since last season but I'm passed that.. again no one on ur d2 should be complaining ya have a great team and the best player in d2 in chris h on the team so i shouldn't be complaining bout guest...

maybe if adham would of knocked down a few more 3's ya woulda won but bass had him on lock.. lmaoo... i still got love for you adham lol hass told me to say it lol....



That's funny because during my whole existence in MB, I never have rubbed anyone the wrong way, I wasn't even in the same division as you last season. If I did, please clarify how and when I have, and forgive me in advance. I never played in 2008, the stats I pulled up were from 2011 (last year). The stats I am comparing with yours was when I was top scoring option (same role as you), just as you are now and have been since you have started playing in the league. The competition has been more or less the same, year in and year out. If you want to discredit my performance last year because of "very weak competition" how about your performance in D2 last season? LA Fitness pickup games are more competitive then D2 last season. That was the weakest competition we have ever had in MB, you put up 326 shots season total. That's 32 shots per game 38.7% FG and 29% 3 Point FG, just stating facts.

Anyway, I never discredited Kazan's win on Thursday. It was a good win, even if they did bring two guests. I never complained once in this whole thread about you abusing guest passes, so I really don't know why you keep bringing it up. Bring Kobe for all I care, at the end of the day guests won't be there for playoffs. It was hard fought and Kazan outhustled us in the end.

Edited by user Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:53:32 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Let your game do the talking.


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#20 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 12:02:46 PM(UTC)
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yea u was never put on a team like kazan 2seasons in a roll.. so don't even compare... and i won a chip with those cards i was felt with last season... and when i guest played twice in d1 on your team and another team i played very well and u know it.. so chill.. don't start that shooting a lot stuff... cause u have no idea what its like being on a team where u was the only option
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